RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 18] [N_taii]

MajorFracture said:

Question for N_taii, apologies if this has been asked before. Are there any plans to do more with the POV options in future updates for HC3, or future projects beyond HC3? I ask since I think the partial POV thing is great, but I would love to see something that was as close to true POV as you can get. Though I can only imagine implementing full POV at this point in HC3's development would present too many issues to be worth it.

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How would a true pov even work?

N_taii said:

I think it would skip over absolutely everything the MC doesn't see or hear, even story-events and freeroams. Moans through doors too I guess.

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Yeah, that's not really possible. Showing only what an MC sees would lead to a story that makes no sense. To make such a thing work you still kind of have to act on third person omniscient rules, but you have to limit what the player sees. So, they wouldn't see free roams or sex scenes because that's kind of the point of a "True" POV. We'd still see cutscenes in which story important details happen, so the duke and his conspiracy scheming, or them finding the statue lost at the start of the game, or the duke and Rose discussing something story important before they have sex. You still need to tell the player the story you just have to cut the "private" content out. This kind of PoV should make the player suspicious of what the women are up to with their NTR partners without having seen the full details.

So in terms of free roams you no longer show the ones we technically can't see. No more talking to people with hearts over their head to see a flashback, no more walking down a hallway and finding a pair of rogue panties that a maid snatches away to bring back to the duke for a scene with her and Rose, no more walking down the street at the docks to see Cyanna and Ulrod fucking behind a building. Instead we see shaded figures behind curtains, hear moaning and groaning behind closed doors, but do we see the top of Rose's head when she's giving the duke head while he looks out a second story window? No. Do we see Ulrod and Cyanna fucking down a dark alleyway? No, we see their shadowed out figures and hear the moans.

A "true MC PoV" should still tell us the story but limit the sexual content to what we can actually see. This is really the only way to make such a thing work without forcing the MC to be present for a lot of stuff they shouldn't be there for.

N_taii said:

Adding a third PoV on top of the two others for HC3 would indeed be pretty much unfeasible at this point I'm afraid^^
As for having a True PoV for upcoming games, I'm really not sure, honestly. It's more work on top of everything else, and I'm not sure how many people would find it really important to have a true PoV that would end up skipping a lot of important stuff story-wise if it remains solely fixated on the MC.

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Yeah that's all fair. I will say even the partial POV as it exists in HC3 cued me in to how much I enjoy that stuff, like the overworld animations/scenes through windows is great. Did have a funny thought that a "total POV" based game (with no option for full POV) would save the dev a lot of effort on animation/art etc. That would be my dream NTR game right now. Not sure if there's anything like that out there. Don't know how many people into NTR dig the "not seeing things" or "not knowing for certain" aspects of the kink, but I'm also a person who hates the ugly bastard trope, so I could be a bit of an outlier in my tastes.

As for how would total POV even hypothetically work? Ehhh in HC3 as it exists currently the player would miss a lot of critical story stuff, though if it was a third option I'd probably just put in a warning like "Hey this is a fucked up way to experience the game, you really sure you wanna do this? You're gonna miss stuff."

Cramming it into an existing game that wasn't made with it in mind is probably just a bad idea regardless. The real solution would just be making a game from the beginning with it in mind as an option, if it was to be done.

The only game I can think of that comes close would be Boy Hero Ken, which does still have part of the game where you switch over to the love interest's perspective... but only after the big reveal which comes as a complete blindside, where you then go into a flashback showing what led up to that moment from her POV. At least from what I recall, the rest of the game does stick pretty tightly to the main character's limited view of what is going on until the endgame where you unlock a special new ability to watch scenes play out directly.

There is another game called "Her Fall in the Last Days" that seems to be trying to fill that niche, but it's still very early on in development so it's hard to say if it will stick to that formula beyond what is already in the trial version. And sadly, it seems like there isn't any plan to involve sprite animations in the background through windows or in other rooms, which is a real shame.

Oriandu said:

Yeah, that's not really possible. Showing only what an MC sees would lead to a story that makes no sense. To make such a thing work you still kind of have to act on third person omniscient rules, but you have to limit what the player sees. So, they wouldn't see free roams or sex scenes because that's kind of the point of a "True" POV. We'd still see cutscenes in which story important details happen, so the duke and his conspiracy scheming, or them finding the statue lost at the start of the game, or the duke and Rose discussing something story important before they have sex. You still need to tell the player the story you just have to cut the "private" content out. This kind of PoV should make the player suspicious of what the women are up to with their NTR partners without having seen the full details.

So in terms of free roams you no longer show the ones we technically can't see. No more talking to people with hearts over their head to see a flashback, no more walking down a hallway and finding a pair of rogue panties that a maid snatches away to bring back to the duke for a scene with her and Rose, no more walking down the street at the docks to see Cyanna and Ulrod fucking behind a building. Instead we see shaded figures behind curtains, hear moaning and groaning behind closed doors, but do we see the top of Rose's head when she's giving the duke head while he looks out a second story window? No. Do we see Ulrod and Cyanna fucking down a dark alleyway? No, we see their shadowed out figures and hear the moans.

A "true MC PoV" should still tell us the story but limit the sexual content to what we can actually see. This is really the only way to make such a thing work without forcing the MC to be present for a lot of stuff they shouldn't be there for.

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I'd enjoy it, it'd be a game where you only see Leto rise the ranks and have drama with the people close to him, and then the big reveal at the end

quandin said:

I'd enjoy it, it'd be a game where you only see Leto rise the ranks and have drama with the people close to him, and then the big reveal at the end

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I mean, I'd be interested to see a story like that. It would necessitate a certain amount of upgrading Leto's presentation. In a game where we literally only see the world fall apart from the viewpoint of the main character I don't think you'd be able to get away with a mute MC. He would have to be an engaging enough character for you to feel bad for him when his world begins to come crashing down. He would also have to be present for more of the things that happen for two reasons. First, if he's completely out to lunch of what is happening to the kingdom and to his friends, mom, and girlfriend he'd be hard to root for. Second, the background events that we aren't seeing would still have to be scripted out and revealed to us later, but we should still be able to hear them happening. There'd have to be a pretty significant amount of moans and groans muffled by closed doors. A lot of hints would have to be dropped or else it might get boring pretty fast.

I definitely would love a full-character POV option, even if I miss out on story elements. For me, full immersion into netorare is a massive appeal and like the other poster, is why this series caught my interest in the first place with the partial-POV focus. People are saying it won't make sense, but as long as a warning is put into the game that the story might feel disjointed, then I don't think that's an issue.

Anyways, it's entirely possible to have the story beats discovered by the main character separately from the girl's corruption, and it might even make the next game better written? Being forced to write a compelling story where the strings are being pulled truly behind the player's back until it starts getting revealed would be a masterful move.

It currently doesn't work with Joyplay.

When I launch it I get this:


All other RPGM including MZ, MV and others work fine.

I have tried offline or with a vpn, same result. Joyplay was updated today.

Unfortunately it may simply not be compatible with joyplay. There is no official android version of the HC games, so if you're not able to play on a computer then you may be out of luck.

Yar, next update should hopefully come out on Sunday or Monday for the first tier of patreon supporters, which means end of November for the public release.

NTRprofessionalconsumer said:

I definitely would love a full-character POV option, even if I miss out on story elements. For me, full immersion into netorare is a massive appeal and like the other poster, is why this series caught my interest in the first place with the partial-POV focus. People are saying it won't make sense, but as long as a warning is put into the game that the story might feel disjointed, then I don't think that's an issue.

Anyways, it's entirely possible to have the story beats discovered by the main character separately from the girl's corruption, and it might even make the next game better written? Being forced to write a compelling story where the strings are being pulled truly behind the player's back until it starts getting revealed would be a masterful move.

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I feel like it'd be easier to put out a MC POV mode once the game is complete. I think this for two reasons. First, it would probably be extremely difficult to get a lot of patreon support if there's no sexual content in the game until a certain point where everything falls apart for the MC. If we go by HC1 and 2 that's pretty late in the game, typically not until the final act climax to set up the ending. No sex until 90% of the way through the game would be a hard pill for a lot of supporters to swallow. It would probably have to be a passion project that you sell after completion not one that you crowd fund monthly subs to. Second, it would probably be easier to work backwards with such a strictly focused POV. So you'd either have to complete the omniscient POV first, or you'd have to front load all of your creative effort resulting in a fully written story and a fully designed game.

Both ways have their benefits and their weaknesses. With the former you'd still be limited by how you treat the protagonist as you would need to create scenes in which his presence was a necessity even if he wasn't the focus of events so you can still drop hints and have him nearby in important moments so that there's a trail of crumbs for the MC POV scenes to use that builds suspense and lets the audience begin to figure things out. With the latter you'll know exactly what you're doing and how you're going to do it, but you'd have far less flexibility to adjust the story if things aren't working out quite right.

Such a story could be very interesting but I don't know if it would be something that would attract much of an audience.

Yeah, I 100% agree. It's a cool idea but unfortunately cool ideas don't get horny people online paying money. The fact that we have HC3 is a miracle, considering how most NTR games I play jump straight into it with little to no corruption. It's greatly appreciated that this dev even takes the effort to show that slow-build sizzling that makes netorare so great in the first place.

Reading latest report, I'm really glad that Freeroams have become mini-scenes. For someone as impatient as me, that's on me, I'd still rather wait longer for better freeroams.

Damn, the wait is killing me. Been refreshing Patreon all day

Ultron64 said:

Damn, the wait is killing me. Been refreshing Patreon all day

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I feel you. The wait for more Rose content is killing me

Ultron64 said:

Damn, the wait is killing me. Been refreshing Patreon all day

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Here's hoping that it's around noon over there and you just woke up a few hours ago, and that you didn't just spend the last 12 hours massaging your dick while you were waiting for that e-mail to arrive xdd

Although there is still time left until the end of Sunday. Let's hope....

I wouldn't count on it coming today. N_Taii lives in Europe so it's probably 11ish at night if my memory of his homeland is accurate.

Oriandu said:

I wouldn't count on it coming today. N_Taii lives in Europe so it's probably 11ish at night if my memory of his homeland is accurate.

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Yep, he lives in the same timezone as me and it is currently 23:38 over here, however that hardly means anything for N_Taii cause he mentioned multiple times that he stays up WAAAAY into the night, while he was living in Japan i used to see him online at 9pm my time all the time, which is like...3am or something like that in Japan, so yeah, i'm fairly certain that the Update is still gonna gome out tonight, but only Americans and degenerates who stay up all night are gonna be able to play without sleeping one more. sadge

Nevermind